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Give Custom Collection Fanarts a chance (small Niche)

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:26 am
by chrissix666
Hello!

I do not have much forum experience and am not an English native speaker so please forgive me. Feel free to move to the right place, i know it's more kinda request, but the request section is not very busy, and maybe there are more people who would find this useful.

I know fanart.tv movie collections are linked with TMDB Collections. Currently (but maybe in the next fanart.tv web version) it is not possible to share fanarts for custom collections and give them a platform. I'm talking about a few but essential exceptions.

Case 1: TMDB Conventions
Like us, the mods and admins of TMDB are just people, some of whom come and go, and everyone has their own ideas of how to do it right. There is nothing wrong with that.
However, I have already noticed some cases on TMDB where "franchises" are traded as collections and some are not. A statement from a TMDB mod "only sequels are collections" is not entirely true, so I'll give you some examples:

The Vengeance Trilogy Movies have nothing to do with each other, but it's in a TMDB Collection.

Simon Peg's "Blood and Ice Cram Trilogy" aka "Cornetto Trilogy" was a collection in TMDB, status has been revoked. But an entry and logos exist in fanart.tv

Monty Python's Motion Picture Movies was a collection in TMDB, but status has been revoked. But an entry and logos exist in fanart.tv

There are already two released films in the new MonvsterVerse Collection: Godzilla (2014) and Kong: Skull Island (2017); in the next film Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019), both storylines are brought together. In TMDB the Godzilla movie belongs to an undefined collection and the Kong Skull Island movie is a one-of-a-kind film.

Cloverfield Movies as all seperated in TMDB, but it's all in the same verse with the same giant monster.

Case 2. Parent Franchises / Universes:
I know there is the tagging function, but if you always have a small hand of films together, that gets confusing, and unfortunately there are no arts for tags. I'll talk for example:
Star Trek Movies. I use those in TMDB in 3 collections as intended, but have tagged them together
Marvel Cinematic Universe. Just like that
X-Men Movies: Some stick to the TMDB, but some split it into the Original Collection, the Logan / Wolverine Collection, the Prequel Collection, and then tag it together.
Kevin Smiths View Askewniverse is own Universe, but they are all seperated ...
Same to the new Dark Universe.

Case 3. Reboot Movies
There are some Reboot Movies seperated in TMDB, some people collect in codi for browsing together. For example: Dredd Movies, Total Recall Movies, Punisher Movies, Wizard of Oz Movies, Day of the Dead (Remake) Movies ... and so on.
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Here is a short list of examples (exception) Collections (wich are non collections):

Blood and Ice Cream Collection aka Cornetto Trilogy
Bud Spencer & Terence Hill 20th Collection
Cloverfield Collection
Dark Universe Collection
Day of the Dead (Remake) Collection
Wizard of Oz Collection
Judge Dredd Collection
Marvel Cinematic Universe Collection
Monster Verse Collection
Monty Python Collection
View Askewniverse Collection aka New Jersey Collection
Punisher Collection
Star Trek Collection
Total Recall Collection
X-Men Original Collection
X-Men Prequel Collection
X-Men Logan / Wolverine Collection

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I ask very politely whether it would be worthwhile to give such cases (even if separate) a place, so fanart creators can also share it to us.

Thx for reading, thx for feedback


(Sry for language, i'm not an english native speaker)

Re: Give Custom Collection Fanarts a chance (small Niche)

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:14 pm
by nazrul31987
100% agreed. I myself was looking for arts on Marvel Cinematic Universe and MonsterVerse.

Re: Give Custom Collection Fanarts a chance (small Niche)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:11 pm
by Ipaddle
I totally agree. If TheMovieDB and fanart.tv share collection names, it would be nice if they do 100%. (Another example is the Studio Ghibli Collection, that exists on Fanart.tv but not in TheMovieDB.) I as user would appreciate it very much. Thank you.

Re: Give Custom Collection Fanarts a chance (small Niche)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:24 pm
by ArieS
Guys,
Fanart.TV uses the database from TheMovieDB. If you find entries here that are not at tmdb, that means they were at tmdb at some point but were deleted/modified, later on.
So basically you would need to take these issues with tmdb.

Or do like I do and create your own NFOs :)

Re: Give Custom Collection Fanarts a chance (small Niche)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:43 pm
by chrissix666
Although I have tried very hard to express myself correctly and to translate it analogous in english ...again for correction:
(Thinke i have to work more on my english)
ArieS wrote:Guys,
Fanart.TV uses the database from TheMovieDB. If you find entries here that are not at tmdb, that means they were at tmdb at some point but were deleted/modified, later on.
So basically you would need to take these issues with tmdb.
Logically based on this knowledge, the text was created.
For dropped collections in TMDB, but still in fanart.tv, of course we can still upload and use them.

But for all the other collections (and special cases of collections) that could not got a fanart.tv entry (or as I said a bit special cases of collections) - all that get a raw deal (see examples above)
And if no entry exists, fanarts will never be created and published

Ipaddle wrote:I totally agree. If TheMovieDB and fanart.tv share collection names, it would be nice if they do 100%. (Another example is the Studio Ghibli Collection, that exists on Fanart.tv but not in TheMovieDB.) I as user would appreciate it very much. Thank you.
Ipaddle speaks of a quite different problem because he is not yet so familiar with the basics of manually saving and the dealing with artwork.
He talks about using ArtworkBeef. Of course, if you think about it a bit later, it's more than logical that if ArtworkBeef does not find a TMDB Collection ID, then AB will not sync with fanart.tv.
-> save manually.

Concerning the first post, it is presumed to save the fanarts themselves (maybe I should have mentioned that) and to completely exclude the use of ArtworkBeef.

Thank you for reading
and big sorry for my really catastrophic english as I must say, there must have gone something wrong in the translation attempt otherwise I can not explain it to me.

regards
chris