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Re: A rule that quite obviously needs to be changed.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:29 am
by Nopealope
ArieS wrote:pssst
Nice. Thanks.

I'm still resubmitting those Star Wars posters under their extra database listings though! :P

Re: A rule that quite obviously needs to be changed.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:46 am
by ArieS
Posters deleted :P

Re: A rule that quite obviously needs to be changed.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:15 am
by Nopealope
Whoa whoa whoa, just a minute there before we start heading back towards crazy town. The Despecialized Editions of Star Wars have their own listings on the site now, which is where I resubmitted the posters. These posters still aren't allowed even under a separate listing with the matching title? I didn't create the database entries after all. If these posters aren't allowed then these 3 database entries shouldn't be allowed either:

https://fanart.tv/movie/317308/star-war ... ed-edition
https://fanart.tv/movie/317312/star-war ... ed-edition
https://fanart.tv/movie/317314/star-war ... ed-edition

Those should probably be deleted, right? Then again, the movies do have their own listings on TMDB as well. I've been lead to believe that you guys cross-reference your own database with that one.

Looks like you're not done ironing out these rules...

Re: A rule that quite obviously needs to be changed.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:15 am
by akovia
Nopealope wrote:Whoa whoa whoa, just a minute there before we start heading back towards crazy town. The Despecialized Editions of Star Wars have their own listings on the site now, which is where I resubmitted the posters. These posters still aren't allowed even under a separate listing with the matching title? I didn't create the database entries after all. If these posters aren't allowed then these 3 database entries shouldn't be allowed either:

https://fanart.tv/movie/317308/star-war ... ed-edition
https://fanart.tv/movie/317312/star-war ... ed-edition
https://fanart.tv/movie/317314/star-war ... ed-edition

Those should probably be deleted, right? Then again, the movies do have their own listings on TMDB as well. I've been lead to believe that you guys cross-reference your own database with that one.

Looks like you're not done ironing out these rules...
There is no way for us to control what entries people decide to enter on the TMDB site. If you did it or not is irrelevant.
The rules have been updated (as per your request btw) and they are very clear.

There is nothing preventing you from using your posters locally on your machine and even sharing them with others by posting them to TMDB. Being Fan-Edits, they do not fit into the scope of the site.
I hoped I'd never have to lock a topic, but I will not put up with anymore of your condescending attitude. This had been thoroughly discussed and the decision is final.

Re: A rule that quite obviously needs to be changed.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:02 am
by Kode
Nopealope wrote:
Kode wrote:I would mention that plex didn't even make it into the top 10 of API users: https://fanart.tv/2015/01/top-10-api-traffic-2014/ Artwork Downloader came #2 and while I think it may also grab posters and backgrounds, it's primary purpose is to get the logos for skins that support them in xmbc/kodi
Fair enough.

...though I would hazard a guess and say the reason you see such lower numbers for Plex is because of the personal API key requirement. The average Plex user wouldn't know an API from a hole in the wall — and even for the users that do (i.e. me), it wasn't exactly an intuitive process figuring out how to get my own key here on the website. With that many hoops to jump through, is it really a surprise that you're seeing less usage? Especially when you consider that Plex is the most "accessible" media center out there.
Plex has never been anywhere near the top 10.

The personal API key isn't a requirement, it just decreases the amount of time a user has to wait to see new approved images. Without an API key it's about 7 days, with an API key about 48 hours, reduced to about 10 minutes for VIP users.

The reason it is lower is more likely because it's not the default agent and most people have absolutely no idea who/what fanart.tv, hence the personal API key to try and get people on the site to find out what it's about.

Re: A rule that quite obviously needs to be changed.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:27 am
by Kode
In addition it seems from a google search the Despecialized versions have been being added to themoviedb since at least Sep, 22 2012, and subsequently deleted when a moderator comes across them.

https://www.themoviedb.org/talk/505d96f ... 0bd0000634
http://www.themoviedb.org/talk/5126d09419c295704b07fa0c
https://www.themoviedb.org/talk/518faf3 ... 499a1eef13
https://www.themoviedb.org/talk/547de3a ... 5afd005dde